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	<title>Comments on: Sam&#8217;s Club bans Brendan Powell Smith&#8217;s Brick Bible + TBB mini-review [News]</title>
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		<title>By: ianbrusso</title>
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		<dc:creator>ianbrusso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flail&gt; For the author to be able to make a profit on the very demographic that he is satirizing is quite a testament (har har) to his wit and business sense. I think Sam&#039;s Club&#039;s decision to pull the book from shelves just shows that the company is clinging to it&#039;s own religious beliefs and sees this particular publication as a threat. I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t see Satanic Bibles or Grimoires for sale there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flail&gt; For the author to be able to make a profit on the very demographic that he is satirizing is quite a testament (har har) to his wit and business sense. I think Sam&#8217;s Club&#8217;s decision to pull the book from shelves just shows that the company is clinging to it&#8217;s own religious beliefs and sees this particular publication as a threat. I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t see Satanic Bibles or Grimoires for sale there.</p>
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		<title>By: gambort</title>
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		<dc:creator>gambort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Polynices&gt; I agree with you that the book as not been &#039;banned&#039; but it has definitely been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censoring&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;censored&lt;/a&gt;. Denying media outlet censorship weakens freedom of speech.

Brickaroo&gt; There&#039;s a massive spectrum of views between the two extremes you give as examples.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polynices> I agree with you that the book as not been &#8216;banned&#8217; but it has definitely been <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censoring" rel="nofollow">censored</a>. Denying media outlet censorship weakens freedom of speech.</p>
<p>Brickaroo> There&#8217;s a massive spectrum of views between the two extremes you give as examples.</p>
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		<title>By: flail</title>
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		<dc:creator>flail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no problem with this book being pulled. As stated earlier, LEGO is first and foremost, for children. Using LEGO as the medium would give the impression to those unaware that this is intended for children. Now, I wouldn&#039;t have an issue with the book if it indicated via a warning or disclaimer that the material may not be suitable for all ages. BTW, I am going on the assumption that the book contains the graphic sexual images (anal sex, etc.) that the web site showed. If this material is not present, then maybe it&#039;s ok.

One other problem I have is the author not making his intentions known to the reader. It seems very disingenuous to me to profit from the very people your mocking, touching on beliefs that are deeply held. 

From a LEGO standpoint, his presentation and building technique are both excellent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with this book being pulled. As stated earlier, LEGO is first and foremost, for children. Using LEGO as the medium would give the impression to those unaware that this is intended for children. Now, I wouldn&#8217;t have an issue with the book if it indicated via a warning or disclaimer that the material may not be suitable for all ages. BTW, I am going on the assumption that the book contains the graphic sexual images (anal sex, etc.) that the web site showed. If this material is not present, then maybe it&#8217;s ok.</p>
<p>One other problem I have is the author not making his intentions known to the reader. It seems very disingenuous to me to profit from the very people your mocking, touching on beliefs that are deeply held. </p>
<p>From a LEGO standpoint, his presentation and building technique are both excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Brickaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brickaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of you write as if you think that the &#039;Brick Bible&#039; is written from an unbiased standpoint. It&#039;s not.

There&#039;s basically two possible biases with which someone will read the Bible. The Christian reads the Bible with the bias that the words are true (and beneficial).

The writer of the &#039;Brick Bible&#039; presents the material from the perspective that the Bible JUST a collection of stories. In this case, a perspective that it is a collection of stories that are quite mock-able.

Only one of these biases is the correct way to read the Bible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you write as if you think that the &#8216;Brick Bible&#8217; is written from an unbiased standpoint. It&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s basically two possible biases with which someone will read the Bible. The Christian reads the Bible with the bias that the words are true (and beneficial).</p>
<p>The writer of the &#8216;Brick Bible&#8217; presents the material from the perspective that the Bible JUST a collection of stories. In this case, a perspective that it is a collection of stories that are quite mock-able.</p>
<p>Only one of these biases is the correct way to read the Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: ttocss</title>
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		<dc:creator>ttocss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good for Sam&#039;s Club for banning that. the stuff that Brendan Smith makes is not Biblical, and it&#039;s really sick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Sam&#8217;s Club for banning that. the stuff that Brendan Smith makes is not Biblical, and it&#8217;s really sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Chandler Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandler Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There is also the fact that LEGO = kids for 98% of the population and selling something that says LEGO on it and yet isn’t really suitable for kids is not sensible for a general interest store like Walmart.&quot;

Exactly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is also the fact that LEGO = kids for 98% of the population and selling something that says LEGO on it and yet isn’t really suitable for kids is not sensible for a general interest store like Walmart.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: worker201</title>
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		<dc:creator>worker201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice discussion!  I agree with everyone.  Personally, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible to separate Walmart&#039;s Bible-belt sensibility from their business decision-making, so we can&#039;t really say for sure if it&#039;s censorship or not.  Fortunately, there&#039;s plenty of other ethical and economic reasons to not shop there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice discussion!  I agree with everyone.  Personally, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible to separate Walmart&#8217;s Bible-belt sensibility from their business decision-making, so we can&#8217;t really say for sure if it&#8217;s censorship or not.  Fortunately, there&#8217;s plenty of other ethical and economic reasons to not shop there.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s fantastic, I&#039;m not a believer myself but I love the objective presentation of the bible in the brick. (it&#039;s not because you don&#039;t believe in God you can&#039;t appreciate a book like the bible, its just a matter of interpretation)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fantastic, I&#8217;m not a believer myself but I love the objective presentation of the bible in the brick. (it&#8217;s not because you don&#8217;t believe in God you can&#8217;t appreciate a book like the bible, its just a matter of interpretation)</p>
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		<title>By: lower_torso</title>
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		<dc:creator>lower_torso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daedalus&#039; point is well made, although I feel that Rev. Smith&#039;s intentions have been a misunderstood. The online Brick Testament does go to lengths to point out some of the contradictions in the biblical narrative, and some of the natural consequences of taking scriptural edicts too literally

Despite Smith&#039;s own, publically acknowledged skepticism about organized Christianity, I do not think that it is fair to criticize his work as &#039;incomplete&#039; or his stories as &#039;out of context.&#039; The online Brick Testament is apparently the most complete illustrated Bible ever, and yet  it is woefully incomplete because the book is just so large. Any adaptor is forced to pick and choose which parts to present. The Bible itself is an anthology, a collection of stories by numerous authors which, especially in the Old Testament, have very little in the way of a common theme other than telling the story of the Jews.

I cannot help but feel that the complaint here is not that Smith has taken stories &#039;out of context,&#039; but that he has not framed these stories as a Christian would. He has not added contemporary Christian interpretation. That is, in fact, his point: to make the Bible itself accessible without imposing the framework of a particular interpretation. Millions of people grow up with a &#039;context&#039; imposed on them by their religious leaders without really examining what the Bible actually SAYS (which, in itself, is really a translation of a translation anyway). Note how many people believe that the story of the Rapture or the 6,000 year age of the earth are actually in the Bible!

If it is false advertising to present a book without the extensive &#039;background&#039; (the Biblical &#039;Expanded Universe&#039;) that has been developed around it by people other than the author, then Smith is no less guilty than his publisher. I do not think this is the case. The printed Brick Bible is apparently not a direct use of the online Brick Testament: I have read that it has been somewhat &#039;sanitized,&#039; with somme of the sex downplayed (if not the violence). And yet there are Christians who find the more explicit online version quite reasonable.

The reaction by Sam&#039;s Club implies that a published version of this public domain document MUST conform to accepted religious doctrine in order to be sold in their store. Banning alternative faithful presentations of the book that simply do not toe the line is no better than prohibiting the sale of books about 9-11 being an &#039;inside job,&#039; refusing to sell Ayn Rand novels, or not carrying books by Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. IN a word, censorship.

As Andhe pointed out, if customers believe that this is a happy Lego version of the Bible intended to assist in the inculcation of modern Christian interpretation in their children, clearly they are incorrect. But should the book then have a big sticker on it that says, &quot;warning, this is not a Christian-approved product?&quot; That is no less an instance of censorship, and no better than putitng a sticker on a D&amp;D mannual saying, &quot;this book talks about demons,&quot; or a sticker on the Koran saying, &quot;this thing has it all wrong.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daedalus&#8217; point is well made, although I feel that Rev. Smith&#8217;s intentions have been a misunderstood. The online Brick Testament does go to lengths to point out some of the contradictions in the biblical narrative, and some of the natural consequences of taking scriptural edicts too literally</p>
<p>Despite Smith&#8217;s own, publically acknowledged skepticism about organized Christianity, I do not think that it is fair to criticize his work as &#8216;incomplete&#8217; or his stories as &#8216;out of context.&#8217; The online Brick Testament is apparently the most complete illustrated Bible ever, and yet  it is woefully incomplete because the book is just so large. Any adaptor is forced to pick and choose which parts to present. The Bible itself is an anthology, a collection of stories by numerous authors which, especially in the Old Testament, have very little in the way of a common theme other than telling the story of the Jews.</p>
<p>I cannot help but feel that the complaint here is not that Smith has taken stories &#8216;out of context,&#8217; but that he has not framed these stories as a Christian would. He has not added contemporary Christian interpretation. That is, in fact, his point: to make the Bible itself accessible without imposing the framework of a particular interpretation. Millions of people grow up with a &#8216;context&#8217; imposed on them by their religious leaders without really examining what the Bible actually SAYS (which, in itself, is really a translation of a translation anyway). Note how many people believe that the story of the Rapture or the 6,000 year age of the earth are actually in the Bible!</p>
<p>If it is false advertising to present a book without the extensive &#8216;background&#8217; (the Biblical &#8216;Expanded Universe&#8217;) that has been developed around it by people other than the author, then Smith is no less guilty than his publisher. I do not think this is the case. The printed Brick Bible is apparently not a direct use of the online Brick Testament: I have read that it has been somewhat &#8216;sanitized,&#8217; with somme of the sex downplayed (if not the violence). And yet there are Christians who find the more explicit online version quite reasonable.</p>
<p>The reaction by Sam&#8217;s Club implies that a published version of this public domain document MUST conform to accepted religious doctrine in order to be sold in their store. Banning alternative faithful presentations of the book that simply do not toe the line is no better than prohibiting the sale of books about 9-11 being an &#8216;inside job,&#8217; refusing to sell Ayn Rand novels, or not carrying books by Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. IN a word, censorship.</p>
<p>As Andhe pointed out, if customers believe that this is a happy Lego version of the Bible intended to assist in the inculcation of modern Christian interpretation in their children, clearly they are incorrect. But should the book then have a big sticker on it that says, &#8220;warning, this is not a Christian-approved product?&#8221; That is no less an instance of censorship, and no better than putitng a sticker on a D&amp;D mannual saying, &#8220;this book talks about demons,&#8221; or a sticker on the Koran saying, &#8220;this thing has it all wrong.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Polynices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polynices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When a private corporation chooses not to sell something that is not banning or censorship. It degrades the meaning of those words and makes it easier for *actual* banning and censorship to happen when people cry wolf so inaccurately.

Especially in the era of Amazon.com and many other online merchants there&#039;s simply no reason to hang-wring over a single (admittedly large) merchant choosing not to sell something. 

There is also the fact that LEGO = kids for 98% of the population and selling something that says LEGO on it and yet isn&#039;t really suitable for kids is not sensible for a general interest store like Walmart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a private corporation chooses not to sell something that is not banning or censorship. It degrades the meaning of those words and makes it easier for *actual* banning and censorship to happen when people cry wolf so inaccurately.</p>
<p>Especially in the era of Amazon.com and many other online merchants there&#8217;s simply no reason to hang-wring over a single (admittedly large) merchant choosing not to sell something. </p>
<p>There is also the fact that LEGO = kids for 98% of the population and selling something that says LEGO on it and yet isn&#8217;t really suitable for kids is not sensible for a general interest store like Walmart.</p>
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		<title>By: Daedalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For believers, The Brick Bible is an accurate (if incomplete) representation of the Old Testament. If your belief doesn’t come through stronger after seeing exactly what’s in the source material, don’t blame Brendan Powell Smith.&quot;

Let&#039;s not go overboard here.  The book, as stated, gives an incomplete and at times out of context look at specific incidents in the Bible.  That might create great cannon fodder for its (originally) intended audience, but let&#039;s not pretend that this is an unbiased look at the source material that can strengthen someone&#039;s faith.  

&quot;I’d love to hear about a campaign to have the Bible banned from Sam’s Club on exactly the same grounds they used to ban Brandon’s illustrated LEGO Bible. Think of the children! Anyway, buy the book. Don’t let Sam’s Club/Walmart win.&quot;
I know you&#039;re being tongue in cheek here (at least I think you are), but this exposes the heart of the problem.  I don&#039;t know how much Brendan had a say in the marketing, but misleading marketing is what led to the ban.  On it&#039;s face, this book looks like unique presentation of the common children&#039;s Bible story books.  The Bible is an adult book, even if parts of it are child-friendly.  
I love Die Hard but I&#039;m not about to sit down and watch it with my five year old nephew.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For believers, The Brick Bible is an accurate (if incomplete) representation of the Old Testament. If your belief doesn’t come through stronger after seeing exactly what’s in the source material, don’t blame Brendan Powell Smith.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not go overboard here.  The book, as stated, gives an incomplete and at times out of context look at specific incidents in the Bible.  That might create great cannon fodder for its (originally) intended audience, but let&#8217;s not pretend that this is an unbiased look at the source material that can strengthen someone&#8217;s faith.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I’d love to hear about a campaign to have the Bible banned from Sam’s Club on exactly the same grounds they used to ban Brandon’s illustrated LEGO Bible. Think of the children! Anyway, buy the book. Don’t let Sam’s Club/Walmart win.&#8221;<br />
I know you&#8217;re being tongue in cheek here (at least I think you are), but this exposes the heart of the problem.  I don&#8217;t know how much Brendan had a say in the marketing, but misleading marketing is what led to the ban.  On it&#8217;s face, this book looks like unique presentation of the common children&#8217;s Bible story books.  The Bible is an adult book, even if parts of it are child-friendly.<br />
I love Die Hard but I&#8217;m not about to sit down and watch it with my five year old nephew.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iirc the concept began as a satirical look at the bible, more or less laughing at &quot;the belief system illustrated so well&quot;... then it was discovered there was a large market in selling the images to conservative Christians, lots of books were sold to them, and (I guess) quite a bit of money made. So it&#039;s a little... hypocritical to then complain when those conservative Christians complain about the images which were (originally) created to make fun of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iirc the concept began as a satirical look at the bible, more or less laughing at &#8220;the belief system illustrated so well&#8221;&#8230; then it was discovered there was a large market in selling the images to conservative Christians, lots of books were sold to them, and (I guess) quite a bit of money made. So it&#8217;s a little&#8230; hypocritical to then complain when those conservative Christians complain about the images which were (originally) created to make fun of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Andhe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the confusion may come from the perception of Lego as a childrens&#039; toy and the assumption that a Lego bible would make a nice gift for a child.
Rather than keep receiving complaints from customers about the &#039;inappropriate&#039; content, it&#039;s just easier for the company to withdraw the book from sale.
Surely it&#039;s less of a censorship issue (in that you can still but the book elsewhere), and more of a business one (keeping customers happy).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the confusion may come from the perception of Lego as a childrens&#8217; toy and the assumption that a Lego bible would make a nice gift for a child.<br />
Rather than keep receiving complaints from customers about the &#8216;inappropriate&#8217; content, it&#8217;s just easier for the company to withdraw the book from sale.<br />
Surely it&#8217;s less of a censorship issue (in that you can still but the book elsewhere), and more of a business one (keeping customers happy).</p>
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