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		<title>By: A Most Serious AFOL</title>
		<link>http://www.brothers-brick.com/2008/07/21/smart-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-44144</link>
		<dc:creator>A Most Serious AFOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean pretty much sums up why I&#039;d never attempt to make a living out of building Lego models. Personally, I wish him luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean pretty much sums up why I&#8217;d never attempt to make a living out of building Lego models. Personally, I wish him luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunbrick</title>
		<link>http://www.brothers-brick.com/2008/07/21/smart-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-44122</link>
		<dc:creator>Bunbrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, I find it very cool of you that you came and personally addressed the criticism of some of us.

I&#039;ll again stress that I have absolutely no problem with the act itself of you making money with your creations; I do not consider you a &quot;money-grubbing elitist&quot; (I apologise if you got that impression from my previous comment); and you deserve full praise for having accomplished success and financial self-sufficiency in this of all manners. I&#039;d love to be in you shoes, you&#039;re literally living the dream of everyone who loved LEGO as a kid.

And I&#039;m not denying you&#039;re talented. I have seen more of your work besides these cars and I like this and that. But these particular babies here... they just don&#039;t do it for me. I don&#039;t find them all that interesting, nor special, and generally enjoy builds with a bit more life, ingenuity and design aesthetics to them. 

That&#039;s all a matter of taste, I know. So if others like them, and perhaps buy them, that&#039;s fine by me. I&#039;m just saying that to me, personally, they wouldn&#039;t be worth that asking price.

So my main contention isn&#039;t with the price measured in number-of-bricks-used, nor with the price measured in workload, let alone with your &#039;usual rates&#039;, but with the price measured in quality-of-the-endresult, of this one particular build. If it&#039;s coming from an LCP and self-proclaimed LEGO artist, and is even a &#039;limited edition&#039;, I simply expect to see something more impressive than &#039;just this&#039;.

Which, again, is a matter taste. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, I find it very cool of you that you came and personally addressed the criticism of some of us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll again stress that I have absolutely no problem with the act itself of you making money with your creations; I do not consider you a &#8220;money-grubbing elitist&#8221; (I apologise if you got that impression from my previous comment); and you deserve full praise for having accomplished success and financial self-sufficiency in this of all manners. I&#8217;d love to be in you shoes, you&#8217;re literally living the dream of everyone who loved LEGO as a kid.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not denying you&#8217;re talented. I have seen more of your work besides these cars and I like this and that. But these particular babies here&#8230; they just don&#8217;t do it for me. I don&#8217;t find them all that interesting, nor special, and generally enjoy builds with a bit more life, ingenuity and design aesthetics to them. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all a matter of taste, I know. So if others like them, and perhaps buy them, that&#8217;s fine by me. I&#8217;m just saying that to me, personally, they wouldn&#8217;t be worth that asking price.</p>
<p>So my main contention isn&#8217;t with the price measured in number-of-bricks-used, nor with the price measured in workload, let alone with your &#8216;usual rates&#8217;, but with the price measured in quality-of-the-endresult, of this one particular build. If it&#8217;s coming from an LCP and self-proclaimed LEGO artist, and is even a &#8216;limited edition&#8217;, I simply expect to see something more impressive than &#8216;just this&#8217;.</p>
<p>Which, again, is a matter taste. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.brothers-brick.com/2008/07/21/smart-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-44071</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ Thanks very much for the explanation, Sean. You&#039;re absolutely right that we AFOLs see your artwork and think &quot;Hey, I could do that!&quot; (even if in reality we don&#039;t have your level of talent). Thinking of it in terms of design time and shippability helps to understand where you&#039;re coming from.

Thanks again, and best of luck! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ Thanks very much for the explanation, Sean. You&#8217;re absolutely right that we AFOLs see your artwork and think &#8220;Hey, I could do that!&#8221; (even if in reality we don&#8217;t have your level of talent). Thinking of it in terms of design time and shippability helps to understand where you&#8217;re coming from.</p>
<p>Thanks again, and best of luck! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Kenney</title>
		<link>http://www.brothers-brick.com/2008/07/21/smart-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-44067</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, no AFOL in the world would ever purchase (or has ever purchased!) a LEGO sculpture from me.  Why would you?  ... you could clearly build a model of your own design and have a lot more fun for a lot less money.   (You all do!) :)

My sculptures are commissioned and/or purchased by people looking for a unique &quot;something&quot; to stand out in their home or office... And that&#039;s everyone from auto enthusiasts to brides, dads, corporations, grandmothers... etc.  Consider that lots of people spend hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to hang oil paintings in their living rooms.  How is what I do any different?  

And brickfrenzy (above) is correct...  There&#039;s more to creating a glued, permanent, (shippable!) LEGO sculpture than just making a LEGO model for fun.  The cost of LEGO elements is only the smallest expense... you need to account for the time it takes to design, build, and glue the sculptures.   I create my LEGO sculptures full-time, and I still need to pay my mortgage... :)  

I challenge each of you to compute your hourly rate at your job, and multiply it by how many hours you&#039;ve spent on your latest creation.  It&#039;s amazing how fast MOCs end up &quot;costing&quot; hundreds, thousands, and tens of thousands of dollars! :)

These little cars are some of the least expensive things I&#039;ve made in years.  It&#039;s a bit ironic that by placing them out for sale, I have been getting bashed for the &quot;high price&quot;.  :)  (What do you think things like these http://seankenney.com/portfolio/5000_to_10000_piece_models/ cost?) :) 

I hope you don&#039;t think I&#039;m some kind of money-grubbing elitist ... I just sell things for what it costs me to make them.  People usually want to buy them, so I suppose all&#039;s well.

All the best,
Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, no AFOL in the world would ever purchase (or has ever purchased!) a LEGO sculpture from me.  Why would you?  &#8230; you could clearly build a model of your own design and have a lot more fun for a lot less money.   (You all do!) :)</p>
<p>My sculptures are commissioned and/or purchased by people looking for a unique &#8220;something&#8221; to stand out in their home or office&#8230; And that&#8217;s everyone from auto enthusiasts to brides, dads, corporations, grandmothers&#8230; etc.  Consider that lots of people spend hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to hang oil paintings in their living rooms.  How is what I do any different?  </p>
<p>And brickfrenzy (above) is correct&#8230;  There&#8217;s more to creating a glued, permanent, (shippable!) LEGO sculpture than just making a LEGO model for fun.  The cost of LEGO elements is only the smallest expense&#8230; you need to account for the time it takes to design, build, and glue the sculptures.   I create my LEGO sculptures full-time, and I still need to pay my mortgage&#8230; :)  </p>
<p>I challenge each of you to compute your hourly rate at your job, and multiply it by how many hours you&#8217;ve spent on your latest creation.  It&#8217;s amazing how fast MOCs end up &#8220;costing&#8221; hundreds, thousands, and tens of thousands of dollars! :)</p>
<p>These little cars are some of the least expensive things I&#8217;ve made in years.  It&#8217;s a bit ironic that by placing them out for sale, I have been getting bashed for the &#8220;high price&#8221;.  :)  (What do you think things like these <a href="http://seankenney.com/portfolio/5000_to_10000_piece_models/" rel="nofollow">http://seankenney.com/portfolio/5000_to_10000_piece_models/</a> cost?) :) </p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m some kind of money-grubbing elitist &#8230; I just sell things for what it costs me to make them.  People usually want to buy them, so I suppose all&#8217;s well.</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Sean</p>
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		<title>By: pe668</title>
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		<dc:creator>pe668</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>367 LEGO elements for 475   postage. How much did my Robotics Invention System cost, hmmmm.

Good to see some of the design was SNOT. Good luck to him if he makes a living from building his own Lego models, I&#039;m jealous.
I wonder what he does on his days off.......hahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>367 LEGO elements for 475   postage. How much did my Robotics Invention System cost, hmmmm.</p>
<p>Good to see some of the design was SNOT. Good luck to him if he makes a living from building his own Lego models, I&#8217;m jealous.<br />
I wonder what he does on his days off&#8230;&#8230;.hahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Legeaux</title>
		<link>http://www.brothers-brick.com/2008/07/21/smart-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-44026</link>
		<dc:creator>Legeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small and overpriced is prototypical for a Smart Car. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small and overpriced is prototypical for a Smart Car. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ochre Jelly</title>
		<link>http://www.brothers-brick.com/2008/07/21/smart-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-44025</link>
		<dc:creator>Ochre Jelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, you only need about 12 bricks to do a smart car!

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/27340

oj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, you only need about 12 bricks to do a smart car!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/27340" rel="nofollow">http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/27340</a></p>
<p>oj</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should point out that despite my original comment, I still recognize the quality of the models. I also agree with Gambort- the ignorant masses (oops) expect studs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should point out that despite my original comment, I still recognize the quality of the models. I also agree with Gambort- the ignorant masses (oops) expect studs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunbrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunbrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m with castlebuilder100 &amp; Chuck on this one.

I&#039;m only impressed by the audacity of the price-tag, not in the least by the quality of the build itself.

Granted, I&#039;m not a big fan of &#039;blocky&#039; (re)creations such as these to begin with, but even despite that I still appreciate some various creations of his that I&#039;ve seen, on the earlier occassions I&#039;ve browsed through his portfolio. This, however, is not one of them, even without taking into account its asking price.

I understand and don&#039;t mind that he wants to make a living out of this dreamjob, but there are limits when art for the sake of art turns that corner to art for the sake of money.
 
If that&#039;s deemed disrespectful to the creator, whom I do still believe has put genuine time and effort (and glue :p) into building this, I&#039;m sorry. But if you have an LCP-title behind your name and call yourself a LEGO artist, put this sort of creation on the internet to be commented on, call it a &#039;limited edition&#039; and then dare to ask fourhundredandseventyfive(!) of my hard-earned bucks for it (indeed not to mention those additional 85 to ship it overseas!), I&#039;m well entitled to give it my fair share of scrutiny. Whether or not I can then build it better myself, is quite irrelevant in this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m with castlebuilder100 &amp; Chuck on this one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only impressed by the audacity of the price-tag, not in the least by the quality of the build itself.</p>
<p>Granted, I&#8217;m not a big fan of &#8216;blocky&#8217; (re)creations such as these to begin with, but even despite that I still appreciate some various creations of his that I&#8217;ve seen, on the earlier occassions I&#8217;ve browsed through his portfolio. This, however, is not one of them, even without taking into account its asking price.</p>
<p>I understand and don&#8217;t mind that he wants to make a living out of this dreamjob, but there are limits when art for the sake of art turns that corner to art for the sake of money.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s deemed disrespectful to the creator, whom I do still believe has put genuine time and effort (and glue :p) into building this, I&#8217;m sorry. But if you have an LCP-title behind your name and call yourself a LEGO artist, put this sort of creation on the internet to be commented on, call it a &#8216;limited edition&#8217; and then dare to ask fourhundredandseventyfive(!) of my hard-earned bucks for it (indeed not to mention those additional 85 to ship it overseas!), I&#8217;m well entitled to give it my fair share of scrutiny. Whether or not I can then build it better myself, is quite irrelevant in this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Will-Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will-Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... crummy model of a crummy car? -- or a Death-Star mega-playset... I know where my 500 bucks would go (If I had that much for LEGOs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; crummy model of a crummy car? &#8212; or a Death-Star mega-playset&#8230; I know where my 500 bucks would go (If I had that much for LEGOs).</p>
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