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	<title>Comments on: Case study #3: &#8220;But I don&#8217;t build like you say I should!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: LEGO Blog: The Brothers Brick &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lego is communication</title>
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		<dc:creator>LEGO Blog: The Brothers Brick &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lego is communication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 2. Context: the audience 3. Tools: Design &amp; build, with case study #1 3b. Case study #2 3c. Case study #3 4. Tools: Presentation 5. Other factors 6. Summing up     Bohman posted this entry on Sunday, May [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2. Context: the audience 3. Tools: Design &amp; build, with case study #1 3b. Case study #2 3c. Case study #3 4. Tools: Presentation 5. Other factors 6. Summing up     Bohman posted this entry on Sunday, May [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Physicist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Physicist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, let me thank all of you for your nice comments. I may be my own audience, but it&#039;s great to know that other people like what I do. I am sure Peter Gabriel appreciates his English mansion and the several million Pounds in his bank account too ;) 
I don&#039;t think that building models is harder by definition than building things you invent yourself. On one hand there are a lot of restrictions when building a model, but on the other hand you don&#039;t really have to come up with a aesthetically pleasing design of your own. The latter requires different skills and creativity. In the online LEGO community there probably are more sci-fi and castle builders than models builders like Steven and myself, but I for one certainly can&#039;t complain about the attention my models are getting and Steven&#039;s fantastic car models are also well-known and admired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, let me thank all of you for your nice comments. I may be my own audience, but it&#8217;s great to know that other people like what I do. I am sure Peter Gabriel appreciates his English mansion and the several million Pounds in his bank account too ;)<br />
I don&#8217;t think that building models is harder by definition than building things you invent yourself. On one hand there are a lot of restrictions when building a model, but on the other hand you don&#8217;t really have to come up with a aesthetically pleasing design of your own. The latter requires different skills and creativity. In the online LEGO community there probably are more sci-fi and castle builders than models builders like Steven and myself, but I for one certainly can&#8217;t complain about the attention my models are getting and Steven&#8217;s fantastic car models are also well-known and admired.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 16:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Steven Marshall

Hey, I don&#039;t build &quot;real&quot; things.  Mostly Mechas and cave racers...  and I don&#039;t get comments either.  Probably because I suck.  But it isn&#039;t just the &quot;reality&quot; people who don&#039;t get feedback.  Plus you get featured frequently on Brother&#039;s Brick.  That&#039;s some interest.  Think also, with the beautifully realized models you make, there isn&#039;t much to say.  It&#039;s not like most of us yahoos have anything insightful to say about cars, and the building technique is solid.  With imagined stuff like Mechas, anybody can chime in with their two bit opinion.  Castle stuff and all that is just more broadly accessible.  But it doesn&#039;t mean your stuff... and others likt it... doesn&#039;t knock our socks off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steven Marshall</p>
<p>Hey, I don&#8217;t build &#8220;real&#8221; things.  Mostly Mechas and cave racers&#8230;  and I don&#8217;t get comments either.  Probably because I suck.  But it isn&#8217;t just the &#8220;reality&#8221; people who don&#8217;t get feedback.  Plus you get featured frequently on Brother&#8217;s Brick.  That&#8217;s some interest.  Think also, with the beautifully realized models you make, there isn&#8217;t much to say.  It&#8217;s not like most of us yahoos have anything insightful to say about cars, and the building technique is solid.  With imagined stuff like Mechas, anybody can chime in with their two bit opinion.  Castle stuff and all that is just more broadly accessible.  But it doesn&#8217;t mean your stuff&#8230; and others likt it&#8230; doesn&#8217;t knock our socks off.</p>
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		<title>By: Mclovin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mclovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those would be awesome transformers!]]></description>
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		<title>By: steven marshall (AKA) Steven1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven marshall (AKA) Steven1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my point with the first message was that people who build &#039;real&#039; things don&#039;t get as much interest. People class it as just copying and lacking in imagination. When my own and other peoples similar work is blogged I get no response, but as soon as a minifig vignette comes on or a castle they gets about 10 comments. Don&#039;t get me wrong I like the castle theme and all the others but I&#039;ve said all this before in other threads. 

In my experience...I do build from imagination too....I find the &#039;real&#039; stuff to be more difficult. This may be just my experience. I find the lack of constraints to make the imaginative build easier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my point with the first message was that people who build &#8216;real&#8217; things don&#8217;t get as much interest. People class it as just copying and lacking in imagination. When my own and other peoples similar work is blogged I get no response, but as soon as a minifig vignette comes on or a castle they gets about 10 comments. Don&#8217;t get me wrong I like the castle theme and all the others but I&#8217;ve said all this before in other threads. </p>
<p>In my experience&#8230;I do build from imagination too&#8230;.I find the &#8216;real&#8217; stuff to be more difficult. This may be just my experience. I find the lack of constraints to make the imaginative build easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Gambort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gambort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven&gt; In response to your first point I do both quite frequently and I disagree that either is harder or easier, they&#039;re just different. While reproducing things forces you to find solutions to mimic complex shapes that you otherwise wouldn&#039;t bother with in a free-build it also frees you from the hassles of ensuring that the overall form is pleasing and that the details &#039;work&#039;.

When it comes to appreciation I think the choice of material counts far more than the choice of prototype or free-build. I bet if you reproduced the Aliens APC with the level of quality you put into your cars you might find yourself on Boing Boing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven> In response to your first point I do both quite frequently and I disagree that either is harder or easier, they&#8217;re just different. While reproducing things forces you to find solutions to mimic complex shapes that you otherwise wouldn&#8217;t bother with in a free-build it also frees you from the hassles of ensuring that the overall form is pleasing and that the details &#8216;work&#8217;.</p>
<p>When it comes to appreciation I think the choice of material counts far more than the choice of prototype or free-build. I bet if you reproduced the Aliens APC with the level of quality you put into your cars you might find yourself on Boing Boing.</p>
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		<title>By: steven marshall (AKA) Steven1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven marshall (AKA) Steven1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find there is definitely the need to please the wider audience when I am building. I am always thinking to myself whilst I am building &quot;This is good , will people notice??&quot; or &quot;will people think this colour looks better?&quot; 

Building for myself I could quite happily build an entire fleet of Bedford vehicles of differing utility and in as many colour variations as my brick collection would permit. However by the third one I was overwhelmingly aware of the audience getting ready to slip into a coma at the prospect of yet another bloody Bedford and so, even though I really wanted to keep building them, I stopped. 

I know I build for myself, I enjoy it, but am I really building for the acceptance of others when the models I build are not the ones I want to build for my own satisfaction with the end result?


In the end, however the good feeling comes, it is that which we build for, be it the acceptance of our own standards or the appreciation of others even the pleasure of building alone, it makes us feel good in some way. This is the only message I need, If I build I feel good........ I&#039;ll keep on building.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find there is definitely the need to please the wider audience when I am building. I am always thinking to myself whilst I am building &#8220;This is good , will people notice??&#8221; or &#8220;will people think this colour looks better?&#8221; </p>
<p>Building for myself I could quite happily build an entire fleet of Bedford vehicles of differing utility and in as many colour variations as my brick collection would permit. However by the third one I was overwhelmingly aware of the audience getting ready to slip into a coma at the prospect of yet another bloody Bedford and so, even though I really wanted to keep building them, I stopped. </p>
<p>I know I build for myself, I enjoy it, but am I really building for the acceptance of others when the models I build are not the ones I want to build for my own satisfaction with the end result?</p>
<p>In the end, however the good feeling comes, it is that which we build for, be it the acceptance of our own standards or the appreciation of others even the pleasure of building alone, it makes us feel good in some way. This is the only message I need, If I build I feel good&#8230;&#8230;.. I&#8217;ll keep on building.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 10:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say that Ralph&#039;s aviation models are an excellent example of models that work on two levels.

The first level is one I can appreciate them on -- very clever, nice looking models with excellent details that look swooshable.  I know nothing about aeroplanes so I have no idea how like the real thing they are, nor do I particularly care - unless Ralph isn&#039;t happy with the result, in which case, I care that Ralph cares as Ralph is the main audience!

The second level of appreciation is that of the &quot;connoisseur&quot; of military aviation, who can appreciate the likeness to the actual craft and all the details of it. These are the people who would notice, and care, if it wasn&#039;t quite right.

Futhermore, I&#039;d argue that the AFOL term &quot;MOC&quot; isn&#039;t a good description of models whuch as Ralph&#039;s and Steven Marhshall&#039;s.  &quot;My Own Creation&quot; sounds like &quot;this came off the top of my head&quot; -- I think a better term would be &quot;My Own Scale Model&quot; (MOSM), but unfortunately that doesn&#039;t make an easily pronounceable acronym.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that Ralph&#8217;s aviation models are an excellent example of models that work on two levels.</p>
<p>The first level is one I can appreciate them on &#8212; very clever, nice looking models with excellent details that look swooshable.  I know nothing about aeroplanes so I have no idea how like the real thing they are, nor do I particularly care &#8211; unless Ralph isn&#8217;t happy with the result, in which case, I care that Ralph cares as Ralph is the main audience!</p>
<p>The second level of appreciation is that of the &#8220;connoisseur&#8221; of military aviation, who can appreciate the likeness to the actual craft and all the details of it. These are the people who would notice, and care, if it wasn&#8217;t quite right.</p>
<p>Futhermore, I&#8217;d argue that the AFOL term &#8220;MOC&#8221; isn&#8217;t a good description of models whuch as Ralph&#8217;s and Steven Marhshall&#8217;s.  &#8220;My Own Creation&#8221; sounds like &#8220;this came off the top of my head&#8221; &#8212; I think a better term would be &#8220;My Own Scale Model&#8221; (MOSM), but unfortunately that doesn&#8217;t make an easily pronounceable acronym.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 02:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ColorSchemer - I&#039;ve done the same thing.  I&#039;ve built many things of which I never bothered to take pictures.  They were built for my own enjoyment, education, or what have you.  So I definitely agree that, at times, you are your own audience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ColorSchemer &#8211; I&#8217;ve done the same thing.  I&#8217;ve built many things of which I never bothered to take pictures.  They were built for my own enjoyment, education, or what have you.  So I definitely agree that, at times, you are your own audience.</p>
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		<title>By: ColourSchemer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ColourSchemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely agree that we all build for an audience. Without realizing it, I had re-evaluated who my audience really was, and poof! I stopped posting pictures.

For some time I thought my audience was other builders. But it became clear that what I had to &#039;say&#039; was boring and uninteresting to that audience. Realizing that I like what I build, and no one else was listening, I stopped wasting my time trying to take photos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that we all build for an audience. Without realizing it, I had re-evaluated who my audience really was, and poof! I stopped posting pictures.</p>
<p>For some time I thought my audience was other builders. But it became clear that what I had to &#8216;say&#8217; was boring and uninteresting to that audience. Realizing that I like what I build, and no one else was listening, I stopped wasting my time trying to take photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 23:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much like your idea about Peter Gabriel, what it works out to be, is that you are the audience as well as people who like what you like.  That it is safe to say, there is an audience that happens to be a fan of scale model aviation and Legos.  You speak to them.  To us, really.  Because your work is so brilliant, it grows your audience too.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the only one who has come to appreciate your planes and I&#039;m not the only one who has a healthier respect for non- snot building.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much like your idea about Peter Gabriel, what it works out to be, is that you are the audience as well as people who like what you like.  That it is safe to say, there is an audience that happens to be a fan of scale model aviation and Legos.  You speak to them.  To us, really.  Because your work is so brilliant, it grows your audience too.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the only one who has come to appreciate your planes and I&#8217;m not the only one who has a healthier respect for non- snot building.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Physicist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Physicist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 22:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As indicated by my name on flickr, I&#039;m not exactly a social scientist, but I reckoned this was going to be interesting. I don&#039;t mind my comments being used as an example out in the open at all. I&#039;m a little flattered actually and if my comments serve to get the point across, all the better. I hadn&#039;t looked at myself as the audience, but I realise that there is a lot to be said for it, so consider me convinced. Of course, I am influenced by knowing that people look at my models, certainly in my choice of subjects and in the way I present them online.  

Cheers,
Ralph]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As indicated by my name on flickr, I&#8217;m not exactly a social scientist, but I reckoned this was going to be interesting. I don&#8217;t mind my comments being used as an example out in the open at all. I&#8217;m a little flattered actually and if my comments serve to get the point across, all the better. I hadn&#8217;t looked at myself as the audience, but I realise that there is a lot to be said for it, so consider me convinced. Of course, I am influenced by knowing that people look at my models, certainly in my choice of subjects and in the way I present them online.  </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Ralph</p>
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		<title>By: steven marshall (AKA) Steven1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven marshall (AKA) Steven1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 22:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I myself build real-world things like ralph and I can tell you this for nowt it&#039;s much more harder than building something from your own imagination, but hay if it&#039;s not a castle or some sci-fi theme nobody gives a crap :0)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I myself build real-world things like ralph and I can tell you this for nowt it&#8217;s much more harder than building something from your own imagination, but hay if it&#8217;s not a castle or some sci-fi theme nobody gives a crap :0)</p>
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